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	<title>Comments on: Adobe CS4: Yet another lousy Adobe installer</title>
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		<title>By: Adobe Flash CS4 Tutorial- How To Use The Bone Tool &#124; Darel Philip</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8896</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe Flash CS4 Tutorial- How To Use The Bone Tool &#124; Darel Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2011 05:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sad, and infuriating, because I used to like the software they made. I really did. dearadobe.com/ www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/ diveintomark.org/archives/2008/07/04/adobe-9 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sad, and infuriating, because I used to like the software they made. I really did. dearadobe.com/ <a href="http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/</a> diveintomark.org/archives/2008/07/04/adobe-9 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Use MacUpdate to keep all of your Third Party Apps Updated &#124; MetroMacs News &#38; Info Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8885</link>
		<dc:creator>Use MacUpdate to keep all of your Third Party Apps Updated &#124; MetroMacs News &#38; Info Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] app can be installed using MacUpdate. Some updates require you to fill in a web- based form, and Adobe applications with their unusual installers never work. If MacUpdate can&#8217;t install an application you will see a &#8220;More Info&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] app can be installed using MacUpdate. Some updates require you to fill in a web- based form, and Adobe applications with their unusual installers never work. If MacUpdate can&#8217;t install an application you will see a &#8220;More Info&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nice Fail photos &#124; Chill Barrel</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8877</link>
		<dc:creator>Nice Fail photos &#124; Chill Barrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sad, and infuriating, because I used to like the software they made. I really did. dearadobe.com/ www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/ diveintomark.org/archives/2008/07/04/adobe-9 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sad, and infuriating, because I used to like the software they made. I really did. dearadobe.com/ <a href="http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/</a> diveintomark.org/archives/2008/07/04/adobe-9 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Nack on Adobe : Notes from Adobe installer management</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8673</link>
		<dc:creator>John Nack on Adobe : Notes from Adobe installer management</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I had a great conversation and follow up emails with Pierre Igot who wrote one of the other blogs talking about the shortcomings of the CS4 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ColdFusion 8 on Snow Leopard&#160;&#124;&#160;Flyingtroll.com</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8525</link>
		<dc:creator>ColdFusion 8 on Snow Leopard&#160;&#124;&#160;Flyingtroll.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 04:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a 12 step program to get ColdFusion running on Snow Leopard.  Maybe someday Adobe will just be able to make an installer that works properly.    This entry was posted on Friday, September 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pm and is filed under Technology [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a 12 step program to get ColdFusion running on Snow Leopard.  Maybe someday Adobe will just be able to make an installer that works properly.    This entry was posted on Friday, September 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pm and is filed under Technology [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reliably Broken &#187; Adobe&#8217;s download manager</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8499</link>
		<dc:creator>Reliably Broken &#187; Adobe&#8217;s download manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 08:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wish Adobe would put the right people back in charge. The Java downloader is a pretty minor thing, but it smacks of a disregard for the simple and standardized mechanisms provided by a platform. In this respect it is much like Adobe&#8217;s continued refusal to kill their terrible custom Mac installers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wish Adobe would put the right people back in charge. The Java downloader is a pretty minor thing, but it smacks of a disregard for the simple and standardized mechanisms provided by a platform. In this respect it is much like Adobe&#8217;s continued refusal to kill their terrible custom Mac installers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe Creative Suite 4: A Sinking Feeling &#124; Semi-Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8489</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe Creative Suite 4: A Sinking Feeling &#124; Semi-Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for weeding out the crap. However, now we have Adobe TV and Adobe Drive which are installed via the controversial Creative Suite installer regardless of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for weeding out the crap. However, now we have Adobe TV and Adobe Drive which are installed via the controversial Creative Suite installer regardless of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: She Loves Tofu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe CS4 Installer Sucks Beyond The Edges of The Universe</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8486</link>
		<dc:creator>She Loves Tofu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe CS4 Installer Sucks Beyond The Edges of The Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] crappiness of the whole process and related UI, already mentioned by a number (Adobe UI Gripes, Betalogue, DF) of reasonable people. This time was my turn. I was installing Photoshop and Illustrator from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] crappiness of the whole process and related UI, already mentioned by a number (Adobe UI Gripes, Betalogue, DF) of reasonable people. This time was my turn. I was installing Photoshop and Illustrator from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Acrobat Reader 8.1 &#171; Steve Hodgson</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8485</link>
		<dc:creator>Acrobat Reader 8.1 &#171; Steve Hodgson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what these terms meant. It’s therefore disappointing when the standard of their software and the user experiences are poorer than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what these terms meant. It’s therefore disappointing when the standard of their software and the user experiences are poorer than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Waffle &#187; Blog Archive &#187; State of the comic: on hard drives, Macs and Photoshop</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8463</link>
		<dc:creator>Waffle &#187; Blog Archive &#187; State of the comic: on hard drives, Macs and Photoshop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about some rather poor user experiences Mac users have had with Adobe products in recent years: Adobe CS4: Yet another lousy Adobe installer and Macworld forums: Re: Adobe answers critics over CS3 and CS4 installer woes, both with extensive [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about some rather poor user experiences Mac users have had with Adobe products in recent years: Adobe CS4: Yet another lousy Adobe installer and Macworld forums: Re: Adobe answers critics over CS3 and CS4 installer woes, both with extensive [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pooter.net/blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe admits to crap installers</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8461</link>
		<dc:creator>pooter.net/blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adobe admits to crap installers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for poor decisions and inaction - my conclusions btw, not Igot&#8217;s). Original Betalogue post here; John Nack post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for poor decisions and inaction &#8211; my conclusions btw, not Igot&#8217;s). Original Betalogue post here; John Nack post [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eismann-sf &#187; CS4 Installer Rant</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8450</link>
		<dc:creator>eismann-sf &#187; CS4 Installer Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 02:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Igot in his Betalogue rants poetic about the horrors of the CS4 installer. I don&#8217;t agree that all his nit-picks are 100% [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Igot in his Betalogue rants poetic about the horrors of the CS4 installer. I don&#8217;t agree that all his nit-picks are 100% [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Installing Adobe CS4&#160;&#124;&#160;BOSS logic</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8447</link>
		<dc:creator>Installing Adobe CS4&#160;&#124;&#160;BOSS logic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to CS4? So am I, but you best be warned&#8230; Adobe is sticking true to form and making the installation process a nightmare. I&#8217;m terrified of what kind of crap it&#8217;s going to leave behind on my disk after I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to CS4? So am I, but you best be warned&#8230; Adobe is sticking true to form and making the installation process a nightmare. I&#8217;m terrified of what kind of crap it&#8217;s going to leave behind on my disk after I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe Creative Suite 4 &#8211; Tryouts &#8211; Ready for Download. &#124; Pixel Multiverse</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8445</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe Creative Suite 4 &#8211; Tryouts &#8211; Ready for Download. &#124; Pixel Multiverse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] : Some people are having problems with the new installer of Adobe. Read here for some solutions on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2008/11/13/adobe-cs4-installer/comment-page-1/#comment-8443</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pecosbill: Your tip wouldn&#039;t have worked, simply because the volume icons in question were only &quot;phantom&quot; copies of the original icons. They no longer had an eject button, and they no longer corresponded to any mounted volume. But like I said in my post, I suspect it was a Finder bug rather than a CS4 bug anyway. It remains true that CS4 mounts and unmounts all kinds of disk images with impenetrable names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pecosbill: Your tip wouldn&#8217;t have worked, simply because the volume icons in question were only &#8220;phantom&#8221; copies of the original icons. They no longer had an eject button, and they no longer corresponded to any mounted volume. But like I said in my post, I suspect it was a Finder bug rather than a CS4 bug anyway. It remains true that CS4 mounts and unmounts all kinds of disk images with impenetrable names.</p>
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