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	<title>Comments on: Mail 3.0: No longer plays sounds through alerts and sound effects channel</title>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: I have the opposite experience, with Mail playing sounds as soon as it starts checking for new mail, even before the new mail has been downloaded! 

Definitely weird—or rather, definitely buggy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: I have the opposite experience, with Mail playing sounds as soon as it starts checking for new mail, even before the new mail has been downloaded! </p>
<p>Definitely weird—or rather, definitely buggy.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ingraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Ingraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had generally strange sound behaviour in Mail since upgrading to Leopard, and I haven’t quite figured out the range of dysfunction yet, let alone tried to isolate and reproduce.

The oddest thing that’s happening with my alerts is long, erratic delays.  I have rules that are supposed to play sounds on receipt of certain emails, and sometimes they don’t play at all, and sometimes they play 30 seconds after the message arrives, and sometimes they play five minutes later.

Even stranger, there’s a sound that I use in only a single rule, and nowhere else on my Mac, the “purr” sound.  It has been playing when I &lt;em&gt;send&lt;/em&gt; messages, perhaps 20% of them, and with none of the sluggish delays of the incoming rule-based alerts.  I hit send and instantly get a purr ... sometimes.

It’s all veeery strange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had generally strange sound behaviour in Mail since upgrading to Leopard, and I haven’t quite figured out the range of dysfunction yet, let alone tried to isolate and reproduce.</p>
<p>The oddest thing that’s happening with my alerts is long, erratic delays.  I have rules that are supposed to play sounds on receipt of certain emails, and sometimes they don’t play at all, and sometimes they play 30 seconds after the message arrives, and sometimes they play five minutes later.</p>
<p>Even stranger, there’s a sound that I use in only a single rule, and nowhere else on my Mac, the “purr” sound.  It has been playing when I <em>send</em> messages, perhaps 20% of them, and with none of the sluggish delays of the incoming rule-based alerts.  I hit send and instantly get a purr &#8230; sometimes.</p>
<p>It’s all veeery strange.</p>
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		<title>By: puiz</title>
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		<dc:creator>puiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Pierre! How are you doing?

I just dropped by to say that my Leopard Mail fails to play the &quot;New Mail&quot; sound at all, even though it does play all the other sounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Pierre! How are you doing?</p>
<p>I just dropped by to say that my Leopard Mail fails to play the &#8220;New Mail&#8221; sound at all, even though it does play all the other sounds.</p>
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		<title>By: David Emery</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Emery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 21:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The knock on effect of this is a little worse though - if you have it set so that the screen flashes when you get an alert (set in the Universal Access pref pane) you no longer get flashes when you get new mail.

Grrr. Why break things Apple?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The knock on effect of this is a little worse though &#8211; if you have it set so that the screen flashes when you get an alert (set in the Universal Access pref pane) you no longer get flashes when you get new mail.</p>
<p>Grrr. Why break things Apple?</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbrown: Although this is not related to the sound issue, I should note that &quot;Save PDF file to web receipts folder&quot; works just fine for me. In addition, this is a command that appears in any Print dialog, not just in Mail. So if it doesn&#039;t work for you, I&#039;d suggest that it&#039;s another problem, which is not related to Mail in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dbrown: Although this is not related to the sound issue, I should note that &#8220;Save PDF file to web receipts folder&#8221; works just fine for me. In addition, this is a command that appears in any Print dialog, not just in Mail. So if it doesn&#8217;t work for you, I&#8217;d suggest that it&#8217;s another problem, which is not related to Mail in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: akatsuki</title>
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		<dc:creator>akatsuki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this is hugely annoying to me as well. It is a bit more serious, because I often have my alerts channel a lot softer than the music and out of a different output and when I am working with sound files, I might have that volume way up. So instead I end up getting blasted by an alert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this is hugely annoying to me as well. It is a bit more serious, because I often have my alerts channel a lot softer than the music and out of a different output and when I am working with sound files, I might have that volume way up. So instead I end up getting blasted by an alert.</p>
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		<title>By: dbrown</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mail 3.1 has a menu item that fails to perform as suggested. &quot;Save PDF file to web receipts folder,&quot; a menu item found via the print dialog box&#039;s PDF button, appears to go through the motions yet it fails to save the file - at least not in the web receipts folder.

There is a work-a-round. A user can &quot;view the PDF file in Preview&quot; (it&#039;s yet another menu selection), and then, within Preview, save that file to the web receipts folder.

So, all is not lost here but any user should definitely be aware of the need not to rely on Mail 3.1 to actually save valuable information to the web receipts folder as Mail 3.1 suggests it is capable of doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail 3.1 has a menu item that fails to perform as suggested. &#8220;Save PDF file to web receipts folder,&#8221; a menu item found via the print dialog box&#8217;s PDF button, appears to go through the motions yet it fails to save the file &#8211; at least not in the web receipts folder.</p>
<p>There is a work-a-round. A user can &#8220;view the PDF file in Preview&#8221; (it&#8217;s yet another menu selection), and then, within Preview, save that file to the web receipts folder.</p>
<p>So, all is not lost here but any user should definitely be aware of the need not to rely on Mail 3.1 to actually save valuable information to the web receipts folder as Mail 3.1 suggests it is capable of doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tsai - Blog - The Alerts and Sound Effects Channel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Tsai - Blog - The Alerts and Sound Effects Channel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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