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	<title>Comments on: Hardware Musings: Why a G5 Quad is not too fast for me</title>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 13:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tr909: Sorry, but on my G5 Quad it&#039;s not enough to saturate the processors. Firefox does take up to 100% of CPU power, but distributed over four cores, it doesn&#039;t really saturate the machine :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tr909: Sorry, but on my G5 Quad it&#8217;s not enough to saturate the processors. Firefox does take up to 100% of CPU power, but distributed over four cores, it doesn&#8217;t really saturate the machine :).</p>
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		<title>By: Tr909</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tr909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(just a side note: To see your CPU indicators go to 100%, just startup firefox and click and hold your mouse-button. This bug has been in Bugzilla for three years, and for Powerbook and iBook users, this bug could make Firefox drain your battery quickly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(just a side note: To see your CPU indicators go to 100%, just startup firefox and click and hold your mouse-button. This bug has been in Bugzilla for three years, and for Powerbook and iBook users, this bug could make Firefox drain your battery quickly).</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew: Agreed. As far as I am concerned, as long as computers use hard drives, things will not be fast enough for me. I should never have to wait for a file copy to complete. I shouldn&#039;t have to wait for Mail to built the Move To menu of mailboxes each time I control-click on a message and select the command to move it to a mailbox. (It always takes a second or two.) etc. etc.

Still lots of room for improvement!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew: Agreed. As far as I am concerned, as long as computers use hard drives, things will not be fast enough for me. I should never have to wait for a file copy to complete. I shouldn&#8217;t have to wait for Mail to built the Move To menu of mailboxes each time I control-click on a message and select the command to move it to a mailbox. (It always takes a second or two.) etc. etc.</p>
<p>Still lots of room for improvement!</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Betalogue on text replacement in Mail.app</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2006/01/30/hardware-musings-why-a-g5-quad-is-not-too-fast-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-3855</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk Wings &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Betalogue on text replacement in Mail.app</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now Pierre Igot at Betalogue has posted  a longer interesting explanation of why this problem occurs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now Pierre Igot at Betalogue has posted  a longer interesting explanation of why this problem occurs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Aitken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Aitken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider it an unavoidable fact of life. No matter how fast your machine, it is never quite &lt;i&gt;fast enough&lt;/i&gt;.

I&#039;m running with a Dual 2.0Ghz G5, yet I find myself cursing when I try to do 4 things at once and it can&#039;t keep up with me. I did it in the past with my old machines, and I&#039;m sure in 5 years I&#039;ll be doing the same with the hardware then :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider it an unavoidable fact of life. No matter how fast your machine, it is never quite <i>fast enough</i>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m running with a Dual 2.0Ghz G5, yet I find myself cursing when I try to do 4 things at once and it can&#8217;t keep up with me. I did it in the past with my old machines, and I&#8217;m sure in 5 years I&#8217;ll be doing the same with the hardware then :)</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 03:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan: Indeed it does! Direct replacements now work in Pages 2.0… Yey! Could it be that Apple is actually paying attention? :-) Still doesn&#039;t work in Mail, though… I suppose we&#039;ll have to wait for a &quot;major&quot; upgrade, i.e. 10.5 at the earliest.

As for typing speed, I don&#039;t think I ever gave you a &quot;words per minute&quot; figure. I am fairly fast, but I have no formal training, and I doubt that I am breaking any records. It&#039;s just that I use &lt;strong&gt;a lot of&lt;/strong&gt; SCX abbreviations, so I think that statistically this increases the chances of the problem occurring for me quite a bit.

I am always hopeful that software will improve in efficiency over time—although I tend to get the impression that there aren&#039;t enough incentives for developers to do so. Microsoft doesn&#039;t have enough competition, Apple seem to always have this tendency of implementing new features that will work best with next year&#039;s hardware, etc.  Lots of forces working against software efficiency, or so it seems :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan: Indeed it does! Direct replacements now work in Pages 2.0… Yey! Could it be that Apple is actually paying attention? :-) Still doesn&#8217;t work in Mail, though… I suppose we&#8217;ll have to wait for a &#8220;major&#8221; upgrade, i.e. 10.5 at the earliest.</p>
<p>As for typing speed, I don&#8217;t think I ever gave you a &#8220;words per minute&#8221; figure. I am fairly fast, but I have no formal training, and I doubt that I am breaking any records. It&#8217;s just that I use <strong>a lot of</strong> SCX abbreviations, so I think that statistically this increases the chances of the problem occurring for me quite a bit.</p>
<p>I am always hopeful that software will improve in efficiency over time—although I tend to get the impression that there aren&#8217;t enough incentives for developers to do so. Microsoft doesn&#8217;t have enough competition, Apple seem to always have this tendency of implementing new features that will work best with next year&#8217;s hardware, etc.  Lots of forces working against software efficiency, or so it seems :).</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Gross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that Pages 2.0 supports direct replacement now (don&#039;t have my copy yet to try). Give it a whirl, drop me a line with what you find out.

As for the other shorthand-type utilities on the market, the mechanism they use (all but TypeIt4Me, which is also an input method) will never be as efficient or as powerful as what an input method can do (as far as monitoring events and inserting text into a document).

Some do the &quot;backspace-over-the-abbreviation&quot; thing in a manner other than simply posting x number of backspaces. Something like posting shift-option-left arrow + backspace to select the previous word and delete it, but that can be problematic as it doesn&#039;t always select the exact number of characters you want to backspace over! So more than what you expect gets deleted at those times (data loss, generally recoverable with Undo if you notice).

But it&#039;s true, as far as the problem you have when typing 180 wpm (or whatever the crazy figure you told me at one point) and typing other abbreviations while one is expanding, it is something I could deal with on my end. Thing is, the solution I would have to implement would likely have a negative impact on performance (slight, but a necessary result of the changes that would have to be made). It&#039;s a big change for what really is a very rarely-occurring thing.

If all apps supported the more advanced text input APIs, life would be good. The next beta of Spell Catcher X 10.2.2 will have a TSM Doc Access test mode that developers can use to help test their implementation (the author of the WASTE text engine seemed very interested). Hopefully some (including Apple) will give it a try...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that Pages 2.0 supports direct replacement now (don&#8217;t have my copy yet to try). Give it a whirl, drop me a line with what you find out.</p>
<p>As for the other shorthand-type utilities on the market, the mechanism they use (all but TypeIt4Me, which is also an input method) will never be as efficient or as powerful as what an input method can do (as far as monitoring events and inserting text into a document).</p>
<p>Some do the &#8220;backspace-over-the-abbreviation&#8221; thing in a manner other than simply posting x number of backspaces. Something like posting shift-option-left arrow + backspace to select the previous word and delete it, but that can be problematic as it doesn&#8217;t always select the exact number of characters you want to backspace over! So more than what you expect gets deleted at those times (data loss, generally recoverable with Undo if you notice).</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s true, as far as the problem you have when typing 180 wpm (or whatever the crazy figure you told me at one point) and typing other abbreviations while one is expanding, it is something I could deal with on my end. Thing is, the solution I would have to implement would likely have a negative impact on performance (slight, but a necessary result of the changes that would have to be made). It&#8217;s a big change for what really is a very rarely-occurring thing.</p>
<p>If all apps supported the more advanced text input APIs, life would be good. The next beta of Spell Catcher X 10.2.2 will have a TSM Doc Access test mode that developers can use to help test their implementation (the author of the WASTE text engine seemed very interested). Hopefully some (including Apple) will give it a try&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do need the universal spell checking as much as I need the expansion feature. They are two essential writing tools provided by Spell Catcher. Plus I absolutely need Spell Catcher&#039;s multilingual capabilities. I need language-specific expansion glossaries. Textpander does not look flexible enough for me.

In any case, the performance problems are not with Spell Catcher. They are with the word processors (Word 2004 and Pages) and other applications. 

Agreed about multiple processors. But it all boils down to software being optimized to make full use of it. If word processors were properly multithreaded, they too could take advantage of multiple processors. But anyway, a single 2.5 GHz core should provide enough performance to power a word processor :). The problem is with the word processors, which are, as far as I can tell, not well written (although Pages is better than Word, of course).

The stalls in Word are there whether you use a single 450 MHz G4, a dual 1.25 GHz G4 or a G5 Quad. I know. I have experienced them on all three. They are a little less noticeable on the G5 Quad, but they are still there, and they still interfere with my work in a significant fashion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do need the universal spell checking as much as I need the expansion feature. They are two essential writing tools provided by Spell Catcher. Plus I absolutely need Spell Catcher&#8217;s multilingual capabilities. I need language-specific expansion glossaries. Textpander does not look flexible enough for me.</p>
<p>In any case, the performance problems are not with Spell Catcher. They are with the word processors (Word 2004 and Pages) and other applications. </p>
<p>Agreed about multiple processors. But it all boils down to software being optimized to make full use of it. If word processors were properly multithreaded, they too could take advantage of multiple processors. But anyway, a single 2.5 GHz core should provide enough performance to power a word processor :). The problem is with the word processors, which are, as far as I can tell, not well written (although Pages is better than Word, of course).</p>
<p>The stalls in Word are there whether you use a single 450 MHz G4, a dual 1.25 GHz G4 or a G5 Quad. I know. I have experienced them on all three. They are a little less noticeable on the G5 Quad, but they are still there, and they still interfere with my work in a significant fashion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rahul Sinha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahul Sinha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Textpander does not provide spell check, but implements a short-hand translator via Input Manager.  It may be more efficient and &quot;elegant&quot; to use it for that purpose - at which point you may not need a unified spell check while typing (as opposed to as a final editing step).

There is a difference between fast and powerful.  A single-threaded app may work much faster on a 3 GHz Core Duo than a 8-proc Power 5 even though the latter is clearly more &quot;powerful&quot;.

All the same, I agree that if one uses a computer 8 hrs a day, and gets irritated by latency, an extra $1-2k to improve one&#039;s quality of life for 2-3 years 8 hrs, 22 days a month... is a good investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Textpander does not provide spell check, but implements a short-hand translator via Input Manager.  It may be more efficient and &#8220;elegant&#8221; to use it for that purpose &#8211; at which point you may not need a unified spell check while typing (as opposed to as a final editing step).</p>
<p>There is a difference between fast and powerful.  A single-threaded app may work much faster on a 3 GHz Core Duo than a 8-proc Power 5 even though the latter is clearly more &#8220;powerful&#8221;.</p>
<p>All the same, I agree that if one uses a computer 8 hrs a day, and gets irritated by latency, an extra $1-2k to improve one&#8217;s quality of life for 2-3 years 8 hrs, 22 days a month&#8230; is a good investment.</p>
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