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	<title>Comments on: Mac OS X&#8217;s Address Book: Problems with Edit mode</title>
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		<title>By: Adressboken är felbyggd &#124; Comme-ci, comme ça</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-8707</link>
		<dc:creator>Adressboken är felbyggd &#124; Comme-ci, comme ça</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bloggar. Igot skriver om användbarhet på ett rakt och ohämmat sett. Till min stora lycka handlar den senaste sågningen om, just det, Adressboken.   Det här inlägget postades i Användbarhet, Apple, Program. Bokmärk [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bloggar. Igot skriver om användbarhet på ett rakt och ohämmat sett. Till min stora lycka handlar den senaste sågningen om, just det, Adressboken.   Det här inlägget postades i Användbarhet, Apple, Program. Bokmärk [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; My 2008 Apple Wishlist: Address Book &#171; Laaker.com - Micah Laaker</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-7810</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; My 2008 Apple Wishlist: Address Book &#171; Laaker.com - Micah Laaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pierre Igot has actually done a fantastic job detailing issues with Address Book&#8217;s Edit mode problems, so I won&#8217;t try to compete with his thorough assessment. I&#8217;ll just say &#8220;+1&#8243; and leave it at that. (Sad side note: his comments are 2+ years old.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pierre Igot has actually done a fantastic job detailing issues with Address Book&#8217;s Edit mode problems, so I won&#8217;t try to compete with his thorough assessment. I&#8217;ll just say &#8220;+1&#8243; and leave it at that. (Sad side note: his comments are 2+ years old.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Erik Moström / The OS X Address Book</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-7435</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Erik Moström / The OS X Address Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like the idea of having a system wide address book but I&#8217;ve never liked the Addressbook user interface. Here you can find some nice comments about the Addressbook [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I like the idea of having a system wide address book but I&#8217;ve never liked the Addressbook user interface. Here you can find some nice comments about the Addressbook [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gems from jem &#187; The OS X Addressbook</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3656</link>
		<dc:creator>Gems from jem &#187; The OS X Addressbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 10:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I like the idea of having a system wide address book but I&#8217;ve never liked the Addressbook user interface. Here you can find some nice comments about the Addressbook.       No responses to &#039;The OS X Addressbook&#039;.  RSS feed for comments and Trackback URI for &#039;The OS X Addressbook&#039;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I like the idea of having a system wide address book but I&#8217;ve never liked the Addressbook user interface. Here you can find some nice comments about the Addressbook.       No responses to &#8216;The OS X Addressbook&#8217;.  RSS feed for comments and Trackback URI for &#8216;The OS X Addressbook&#8217;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comme-ci, comme ça &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adressboken är felbyggd</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3602</link>
		<dc:creator>Comme-ci, comme ça &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adressboken är felbyggd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Den trevliga bloggen Betalogue, signerad Pierre Igot, är ett riktigt guldkorn bland alla bloggar. Igot skriver om användbarhet på ett rakt och ohämmat sett. Till min stora lycka handlar den senaste sågningen om, just det, Adressboken. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Den trevliga bloggen Betalogue, signerad Pierre Igot, är ett riktigt guldkorn bland alla bloggar. Igot skriver om användbarhet på ett rakt och ohämmat sett. Till min stora lycka handlar den senaste sågningen om, just det, Adressboken. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Z.</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3402</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Z.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, the non-standard text field behaviour is a big pain.  But the way Undo works in Address Book is criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, the non-standard text field behaviour is a big pain.  But the way Undo works in Address Book is criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3401</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soosy: You &lt;strong&gt;can&lt;/strong&gt; have a smart group that only shows Address Book cards whose &quot;Company&quot; field &quot;is not set.&quot; Would that help?

As far as I know, the Junk filter &lt;strong&gt;does&lt;/strong&gt; continue to learn—although how well that process works I do not know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soosy: You <strong>can</strong> have a smart group that only shows Address Book cards whose &#8220;Company&#8221; field &#8220;is not set.&#8221; Would that help?</p>
<p>As far as I know, the Junk filter <strong>does</strong> continue to learn—although how well that process works I do not know.</p>
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		<title>By: soosy</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3399</link>
		<dc:creator>soosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, what I meant was I have added legitimate addresses, such as mailing lists senders, to my Address Book so they will be recognized and WON&#039;T be marked as junk. Unfortunately they clutter up my address book so I was hoping for a way to sort or filter them out of the view. 

I haven&#039;t added any addresses for this purpose in a while though... and maybe the junk filter is smart enough without needing to do that. i.e. if it doesn&#039;t get marked as junk the first time (or especially if you UNmark it), it won&#039;t likely get marked the next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, what I meant was I have added legitimate addresses, such as mailing lists senders, to my Address Book so they will be recognized and WON&#8217;T be marked as junk. Unfortunately they clutter up my address book so I was hoping for a way to sort or filter them out of the view. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t added any addresses for this purpose in a while though&#8230; and maybe the junk filter is smart enough without needing to do that. i.e. if it doesn&#8217;t get marked as junk the first time (or especially if you UNmark it), it won&#8217;t likely get marked the next time.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soosy: Obviously this post is about Address Book&#039;s Edit mode specifically. I agree that some easy way to duplicate cards would be useful. Address Book&#039;s used to have an &quot;AutoComplete&quot; kind of feature, but it was a nightmare for postal codes, so Apple turned it off altogether. They need to work harder on this.

Also, I am not sure creating Address Book cards for junk mail filtering purposes is a good idea. One of the basic ideas of junk mail filtering is usually that people/companies that &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; appear in your Address Book are &lt;strong&gt;legitimate&lt;/strong&gt; correspondents, not junk mail senders. Not sure how Mail&#039;s junk mail filter deals with junk mail that matches existing Address Book entries…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soosy: Obviously this post is about Address Book&#8217;s Edit mode specifically. I agree that some easy way to duplicate cards would be useful. Address Book&#8217;s used to have an &#8220;AutoComplete&#8221; kind of feature, but it was a nightmare for postal codes, so Apple turned it off altogether. They need to work harder on this.</p>
<p>Also, I am not sure creating Address Book cards for junk mail filtering purposes is a good idea. One of the basic ideas of junk mail filtering is usually that people/companies that <strong>do</strong> appear in your Address Book are <strong>legitimate</strong> correspondents, not junk mail senders. Not sure how Mail&#8217;s junk mail filter deals with junk mail that matches existing Address Book entries…</p>
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		<title>By: soosy</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3392</link>
		<dc:creator>soosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started using Address Book more seriously recently. Some things that have been frustrating me....
- It would be nice to designate a group (family) as having the same address/phone. There is no autofill, and you can&#039;t even copy a full address from one person to another, you have to copy street, and then city, and then state and then zip. Bah!
- You can sync your address book or &quot;share&quot; it with another .mac member, but it has to be the ENTIRE address book.
- You can sync a particular group to iPod, but it can&#039;t be a smart group, and certain fields like Birthday aren&#039;t synced. Therefore, some children that I only have birthdays for show up on the iPod as just a name and no info! Don&#039;t copy that contact then, at least. (A workaround for smart groups, I think, is to make a normal group with the smart group as its only entry.)
- I have some mailing address emails added to my address book for the Mail junk filter to recognize. You can mark these as &quot;company&quot; which gives them a nice icon to differentiate them, but you can&#039;t sort the Address book list by company/person. And you can&#039;t even make a smart group that just shows people and filters out those marked as company! Argh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started using Address Book more seriously recently. Some things that have been frustrating me&#8230;.<br />
- It would be nice to designate a group (family) as having the same address/phone. There is no autofill, and you can&#8217;t even copy a full address from one person to another, you have to copy street, and then city, and then state and then zip. Bah!<br />
- You can sync your address book or &#8220;share&#8221; it with another .mac member, but it has to be the ENTIRE address book.<br />
- You can sync a particular group to iPod, but it can&#8217;t be a smart group, and certain fields like Birthday aren&#8217;t synced. Therefore, some children that I only have birthdays for show up on the iPod as just a name and no info! Don&#8217;t copy that contact then, at least. (A workaround for smart groups, I think, is to make a normal group with the smart group as its only entry.)<br />
- I have some mailing address emails added to my address book for the Mail junk filter to recognize. You can mark these as &#8220;company&#8221; which gives them a nice icon to differentiate them, but you can&#8217;t sort the Address book list by company/person. And you can&#8217;t even make a smart group that just shows people and filters out those marked as company! Argh</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3377</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, we need to have an election. Until an election is actually announced, I wouldn&#039;t lose any sleep over it—Address Book is more of a daily concern, really :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, we need to have an election. Until an election is actually announced, I wouldn&#8217;t lose any sleep over it—Address Book is more of a daily concern, really :-).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ingraham</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3373</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Ingraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expanding on this minor point about iTunes: in fact, virtually all metadata fields are editable in iTunes, not just title, artist and album fields. And yes, it is certainly irritating that you can’t tab through them, and yet I edit tags this way constantly anyway. Better than opening the info dialog every time, unless you’re changing multiple files at once.

But back on the subject of your whole post, Pierre (instead of the iTunes nitpicking :) ... gosh, I’ve been waiting for AB to develop to the point where I’m willing to use it ever since it was first released... and I’m not sure it’s ready! Everything you write about here is exactly the kind of stuff that’s bugged me about AB all along. I find it terribly disappointing, and I still don’t want to use it. But choosing between Entourage and the Address Book/Mail duo is like trying to decide who to vote for in the next federal Canadian election!

Okay, it’s not a lot like that. Just a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expanding on this minor point about iTunes: in fact, virtually all metadata fields are editable in iTunes, not just title, artist and album fields. And yes, it is certainly irritating that you can’t tab through them, and yet I edit tags this way constantly anyway. Better than opening the info dialog every time, unless you’re changing multiple files at once.</p>
<p>But back on the subject of your whole post, Pierre (instead of the iTunes nitpicking :) &#8230; gosh, I’ve been waiting for AB to develop to the point where I’m willing to use it ever since it was first released&#8230; and I’m not sure it’s ready! Everything you write about here is exactly the kind of stuff that’s bugged me about AB all along. I find it terribly disappointing, and I still don’t want to use it. But choosing between Entourage and the Address Book/Mail duo is like trying to decide who to vote for in the next federal Canadian election!</p>
<p>Okay, it’s not a lot like that. Just a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tsai - Blog - Address Book&#8217;s Edit Mode</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3372</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tsai - Blog - Address Book&#8217;s Edit Mode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Comme-ci, comme ça &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adressboken är felbyggd</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3371</link>
		<dc:creator>Comme-ci, comme ça &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adressboken är felbyggd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Den trevliga bloggen Betalogue, signerad Pierre Igot, är ett riktigt guldkorn bland alla bloggar. Igot skriver om användbarhet på ett rakt och ohämmat sett. Till min stora lycka handlar den senaste sågningen om, just det, Adressboken. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Den trevliga bloggen Betalogue, signerad Pierre Igot, är ett riktigt guldkorn bland alla bloggar. Igot skriver om användbarhet på ett rakt och ohämmat sett. Till min stora lycka handlar den senaste sågningen om, just det, Adressboken. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2005/11/10/mac-os-xs-address-book-problems-with-edit-mode/comment-page-1/#comment-3370</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correct, I should have double-checked this. Like you said, since it&#039;s only accessible with the mouse, it&#039;s not very useful. But it&#039;s there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correct, I should have double-checked this. Like you said, since it&#8217;s only accessible with the mouse, it&#8217;s not very useful. But it&#8217;s there.</p>
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