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	<title>Comments on: Panther: More on problem with AirPort connection</title>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have a BT dongle around your keyboard or something? My setup with the BT dongle messing up my AP connection after upgrading to 10.3. sometimes the BT will go, sometimes the AP will go. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have a BT dongle around your keyboard or something? My setup with the BT dongle messing up my AP connection after upgrading to 10.3. sometimes the BT will go, sometimes the AP will go.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jim: no dongle

Judi: it&#039;s a dual 1.25 GHz G4 (MDD) tower. I also have a TiBook, so I am all too aware of the AirPort reception problems. But this problem is different. The connection is lost even though the computer does not move, is always in the same room as the Base Station, and has 80% reception when the connection is there.

Never had any problems with 10.2. It&#039;s clearly a problem with Panther. (The TiBook is still running 10.2 and doesn&#039;t have any problems.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jim: no dongle</p>
<p>Judi: it&#8217;s a dual 1.25 GHz G4 (MDD) tower. I also have a TiBook, so I am all too aware of the AirPort reception problems. But this problem is different. The connection is lost even though the computer does not move, is always in the same room as the Base Station, and has 80% reception when the connection is there.</p>
<p>Never had any problems with 10.2. It&#8217;s clearly a problem with Panther. (The TiBook is still running 10.2 and doesn&#8217;t have any problems.)</p>
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		<title>By: Judi</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>Judi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which computer is it again? I know that the Aluminum and Titanium laptops do not have nearly the AirPort reception that they should. My husband has a 12&quot; G4 PB and I have a 12&quot; iBook. We can be sitting right next to each other whether it&#039;s in a lobby or in our home and I&#039;ll have a full, steady signal on mine and never lose it and he can lean ever so slightly in any direction and lose his signal. Or not have one at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which computer is it again? I know that the Aluminum and Titanium laptops do not have nearly the AirPort reception that they should. My husband has a 12&#8243; G4 PB and I have a 12&#8243; iBook. We can be sitting right next to each other whether it&#8217;s in a lobby or in our home and I&#8217;ll have a full, steady signal on mine and never lose it and he can lean ever so slightly in any direction and lose his signal. Or not have one at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis: You have 5.2 because you have an AirPort Extreme Base Station. I only have a regular &quot;graphite&quot; Base Station.

Apple has just released Mac OS X 10.3.1, which doesn&#039;t fix the AirPort problem. (It does fix the FireWire 800 problems, though, apparently.) So we&#039;ll have to wait until 10.3.2 at least. Frustrating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis: You have 5.2 because you have an AirPort Extreme Base Station. I only have a regular &#8220;graphite&#8221; Base Station.</p>
<p>Apple has just released Mac OS X 10.3.1, which doesn&#8217;t fix the AirPort problem. (It does fix the FireWire 800 problems, though, apparently.) So we&#8217;ll have to wait until 10.3.2 at least. Frustrating!</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-327</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same thing is happening to me. I ,however, have firmware version 5.2 installed on the base station. I usually have to power cycle the base station to get the connection to work again. It then only lasts for 20-40 min and I have to do it again. Everything was fine before doing this last AirPort software update.

The way I found to fix the problem is to reset the base station and then not change any settings. Yes, it&#039;s highly insecure. Now that AirPort supports WPA I can&#039;t even use WEP!

If you search Apple discussion forums you&#039;ll find out this is happening to lots of people. Lets hope Apple fixes it soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same thing is happening to me. I ,however, have firmware version 5.2 installed on the base station. I usually have to power cycle the base station to get the connection to work again. It then only lasts for 20-40 min and I have to do it again. Everything was fine before doing this last AirPort software update.</p>
<p>The way I found to fix the problem is to reset the base station and then not change any settings. Yes, it&#8217;s highly insecure. Now that AirPort supports WPA I can&#8217;t even use WEP!</p>
<p>If you search Apple discussion forums you&#8217;ll find out this is happening to lots of people. Lets hope Apple fixes it soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Webber</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Webber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same problem.

Mac G4 cube with airport connecting to a Linksys WAP11 connection point. No problems with Jaguar, loads with panther.

G</description>
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<p>Mac G4 cube with airport connecting to a Linksys WAP11 connection point. No problems with Jaguar, loads with panther.</p>
<p>G</p>
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		<title>By: DibS</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>
		<dc:creator>DibS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same problem here.  iBook 600 with a dual ethernet or &quot;Snow&quot; airport.    The Airport seems to drop it&#039;s IP address and self assigns.  Rather irritating…
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same problem here.  iBook 600 with a dual ethernet or &#8220;Snow&#8221; airport.    The Airport seems to drop it&#8217;s IP address and self assigns.  Rather irritating…</p>
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		<title>By: gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>same problem here; it&#039;s nice that it&#039;s not just me but frustrating as hell to be hard wired with my airport at my feet flashing; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>same problem here; it&#8217;s nice that it&#8217;s not just me but frustrating as hell to be hard wired with my airport at my feet flashing;</p>
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		<title>By: salvino</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>salvino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>similar problem here: sometimes my Airport-based LAN works fine and I can both access other computers of the LAN and connect to the Net, but sometimes I can just access the LAN but no connection to the Net (my computer doesn&#039;t get an IP address from the Airport base). Airport base is not the problem as my Macs running Jaguar work fine, only the ones running Panther have this problem. And problem seems to occur randomly, and to dissapear randomly as well…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>similar problem here: sometimes my Airport-based LAN works fine and I can both access other computers of the LAN and connect to the Net, but sometimes I can just access the LAN but no connection to the Net (my computer doesn&#8217;t get an IP address from the Airport base). Airport base is not the problem as my Macs running Jaguar work fine, only the ones running Panther have this problem. And problem seems to occur randomly, and to dissapear randomly as well…</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t experienced the problem since doing a clean install of Panther. So maybe there&#039;s something about &quot;unclean&quot; installs here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t experienced the problem since doing a clean install of Panther. So maybe there&#8217;s something about &#8220;unclean&#8221; installs here.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Bohlen</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Bohlen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the fix!  I have been having the worst time with a SNOW AP.  It stays in the antenna icon and is selectable but dissappears from the AirPort Admin Util after about 5 minutes.  I took away the PAssword and it has been working well for several hours.
Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the fix!  I have been having the worst time with a SNOW AP.  It stays in the antenna icon and is selectable but dissappears from the AirPort Admin Util after about 5 minutes.  I took away the PAssword and it has been working well for several hours.<br />
Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Rubin</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy Rubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been having the same troubles for the last 2 days. My new powerbook loses its connection to the airport. It happened 2x today, once while I was working and once when it wok from a sleep. INterestingly enough, it didn&#039;t end there. My ethernet card was unable to access the internet. 3 hours lost trouble-shooting today. Got my printer back (had lost it when the airport dropped) and I had a deadline so the ethernet card will have to wait for another day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been having the same troubles for the last 2 days. My new powerbook loses its connection to the airport. It happened 2x today, once while I was working and once when it wok from a sleep. INterestingly enough, it didn&#8217;t end there. My ethernet card was unable to access the internet. 3 hours lost trouble-shooting today. Got my printer back (had lost it when the airport dropped) and I had a deadline so the ethernet card will have to wait for another day.</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Igot</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-568</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Igot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of networking issues with Panther as far as I can tell. I have two AirPort stations connected to each other with an Ethernet cable (the second one acting as a relay), and Panther appears to have &quot;corrupted&quot; one of the two somehow. Even resetting it didn&#039;t work. I&#039;ll have to try some more. Pain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of networking issues with Panther as far as I can tell. I have two AirPort stations connected to each other with an Ethernet cable (the second one acting as a relay), and Panther appears to have &#8220;corrupted&#8221; one of the two somehow. Even resetting it didn&#8217;t work. I&#8217;ll have to try some more. Pain!</p>
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		<title>By: ANdrew Newnes</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>ANdrew Newnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Im having the same problem except im using windows / linux based notebooks and pcs with three differnet nics, its actually the airport itself, I am using some wlan monitering tools and there is something wrong with the firmware.. It keeps dropping the connection, it has beein pissing me right off, so I ended up smashing it with a sledge hammer.. A waste of money I know but it felt sooo good . no joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Im having the same problem except im using windows / linux based notebooks and pcs with three differnet nics, its actually the airport itself, I am using some wlan monitering tools and there is something wrong with the firmware.. It keeps dropping the connection, it has beein pissing me right off, so I ended up smashing it with a sledge hammer.. A waste of money I know but it felt sooo good . no joke!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.betalogue.com/2003/11/11/panther-more-on-problem-with-airport-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kind of happy I&#039;m finding these pages!

I have the same problem BUT do not use an Airport Base Station (Extreme or normal).

I do, however, have an Airport Extreme card in my 20&quot; FP iMac and it&#039;s losing its connection to my wireless LAN (DLink gear) sporadically. It also fails to resolve all the ip addresses on my LAN (the ARP tables are incoimplete).  I&#039;m running 10.3.2.

My Powerbook running 10.2.8 has no such problems, despite having weaker signal strength.

I&#039;ve scratched my head since getting the iMac (Christmas) and am convinced there&#039;s either an issue with Airport Extreme (802.11g? Can this be throttled back in the cards to 802.11b?) or (more likely) with Panther.

A hard wired connection works fine, but that&#039;s simply not practical in my setup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of happy I&#8217;m finding these pages!</p>
<p>I have the same problem BUT do not use an Airport Base Station (Extreme or normal).</p>
<p>I do, however, have an Airport Extreme card in my 20&#8243; FP iMac and it&#8217;s losing its connection to my wireless LAN (DLink gear) sporadically. It also fails to resolve all the ip addresses on my LAN (the ARP tables are incoimplete).  I&#8217;m running 10.3.2.</p>
<p>My Powerbook running 10.2.8 has no such problems, despite having weaker signal strength.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve scratched my head since getting the iMac (Christmas) and am convinced there&#8217;s either an issue with Airport Extreme (802.11g? Can this be throttled back in the cards to 802.11b?) or (more likely) with Panther.</p>
<p>A hard wired connection works fine, but that&#8217;s simply not practical in my setup.</p>
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